J'ai déjà pu parler de SLoodle. Normal puisque c'est la meilleure combinaison disponible (opensource) d'un CMS (système de gestion de contenu web) avec 2L. Et Moodle est un CMS un peu particulier : un LMS (Learning Management System).
- Sloodle Janvier 2007
- Le "Bloghud" pour Moodle Avril 2007
- SLoodle: Moodle and Second Life Mai 2007
- Et la Slovénie nous présente Sloodle Mai 2007
Depuis le système a poursuivi son évolution et ses améliorations. Des éléments que l'on retrouve dans le plan du chatlog ci-après :
- 14:06 Introduction
- 14:11 Sloodle Diagram
- 14:15 Sloodle Registration Booth
- 14:22 Sloodle WebIntercom
- 14:30 Sloodle MetaGloss
- 14:36 Sloodle Quizz Chair
- 14:42 Sloodle Primdrop
- 14:43 Sloodle Choice
- 14:49 Sloodle Toolbar
- 14:51 Future & Developments
- 14:53 Questions
- 15:04 Conclusion
L'objectif étant d'assurer la gestion d'enseignements dans 2L, la réservation et les listes d'accès pour les classes.
Les sessions SLoodle 101 sont des présentations d'une heure des possibilités offertes par l'utilisation de Moodle avec 2nd Life grâce aux outils SLoodle. Elles ont lieu les mercredis à 6:00 AM et 2:00PM SLT soit 15h00 et 23h00 heure de Paris.
101 désigne dans le monde anglosaxon l'introduction à un sujet pour débutants. Pour noobs.
Wikipedia nous dit :"An introduction or basic overview to a topic. By extension, it is informally used elsewhere to indicate things that are meant for beginners, or a crash course".
Chatlog :
Introduction
[14:06] telehub whispers: Hello Daneel Ariantho. Welcome to virtuALBA!
[14:06] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: Readly Oh (14m), Cheyenne Bracken (13m), Bracken Homewood (14m), Casey Ezvalt (15m), MsMauri Collins (15m), Weedless Frog (16m), JG Lane (16m), Keithm Mureaux (19m), Pedro McMillan (19m)
[14:06] Pedro McMillan: I recognise a few names here, but not everyone.
[14:07] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording Readly Oh
[14:07] Pedro McMillan: How many of you are familiar with Sloodle/Moodle already?
[14:07] Keithm Mureaux: just starting in the last week
[14:07] Readly Oh: Somewhat Moodle
[14:07] JG Lane: I am familiar with Moodle
[14:07] Weedless Frog: I'm more familiar with Moodle than SL
[14:07] Casey Ezvalt: im looking at options that Moodle and Sloodle can provide...we arent on Moodle just yet
[14:07] MsMauri Collins: attended a Jeremy presentation with my class last fall
[14:07] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Josh Duncan: enter
[14:08] Bracken Homewood: I am familiar with SL...and I know moodle by reputation
[14:08] Weedless Frog: i just logged in as a guest
[14:08] Casey Ezvalt: im more familiar with SL
[14:08] Pedro McMillan: ok, so there is a fair range of familiarity
[14:08] Pedro McMillan: I'll quickly summarise Moodle
[14:09] Pedro McMillan: it is learning management system, which means it creates/manages an educational website for you
[14:09] Pedro McMillan: you create courses on it, with forums, chatrooms, quizzes, and so on
[14:09] Bracken Homewood: are we using voice or tewxt?
[14:09] Pedro McMillan: just text
[14:09] Bracken Homewood: *text?
[14:09] Pedro McMillan: the nice thing about Moodle is that it is free and open source
[14:10] Pedro McMillan: (the "open source" part means we can open it up and tinker with it!)
[14:10] Pedro McMillan: typically, you would access Moodle through a web-browser, such as Internet Explorer, or Firefox
[14:10] Pedro McMillan: obviously, that is just 2 dimensional... you see flat text, and flat images, and that is it
[14:10] Pedro McMillan: you never really feel like you are sharing your learning experience with anyone... it is somewhat "faceless"
[14:11] Pedro McMillan: Sloodle aims to bring the educational framework of Moodle into SL, where it is 3d, immersive, and collaborative
Sloodle Diagram
[14:11] Pedro McMillan: my usual diagram over there illustrates it...
[14:11] Pedro McMillan: you can see we have Moodle at the top
[14:12] Pedro McMillan: down to the left is a web-browser, and down to the right is SL
[14:12] Pedro McMillan: we're not trying to just re-create Moodle in 3d.... rather, we want to take advantage of all the great things you can do with SL
[14:12] Pedro McMillan: in some cases, that just means having a 3d interface... but we are also looking at doing brand new things
[14:14] Pedro McMillan: each red cylinder underneath is a Moodle user (student or teacher)
[14:14] Pedro McMillan: each blue cylinder at the bottom is an avatar here in SL... like each of us here
[14:14] Pedro McMillan: Sloodle is the light blue box that connects them
[14:14] Pedro McMillan: so your avatar just becomes another way of accessing Moodle through your usual account
[14:14] Pedro McMillan: (this connection is very important... it means that you can access in SL the same things you could access through your web-browser)
[14:14] Pedro McMillan: everybody following OK so far?
[14:14] Cheyenne Bracken: yes
[14:14] Weedless Frog: yes
[14:15] Casey Ezvalt: yes
[14:15] Pedro McMillan: great
[14:15] Bracken Homewood: yep
Sloodle Registration Booth
[14:15] Pedro McMillan: the next thing that would be worth doing just now is creating accounts for yourselves over at: http://www.sloodle.org
[14:15] Pedro McMillan: (you need to wait for it to send you an email to confirm your address, so it's best to start the process now!)
[14:16] Pedro McMillan: Sloodle.org is our main website, which runs just like any normal Moodle site
[14:16] Keithm Mureaux: k
[14:16] Pedro McMillan: we have forums and stuff on there, so you can feel free to get involved there later if you're interested!
[14:16] Pedro McMillan: the next thing we will do is to get each of your avatars registered with your accounts on Sloodle.org
[14:17] Pedro McMillan: there are lots of ways to do this
[14:17] Pedro McMillan: the one you use with a class is really a matter of personal preference
[14:17] Pedro McMillan: my preferred method is the "Registration Booth"
[14:17] Pedro McMillan: everybody managed to create an account on Sloodle.org?
[14:17] Keithm Mureaux: yup
[14:17] Casey Ezvalt: i have
[14:19] Bracken Homewood: *registered
[14:19] Pedro McMillan: this device beside me is the registration booth
[14:19] Bracken Homewood: or do I need to be regitered for this class?
[14:19] MsMauri Collins: done
[14:19] Pedro McMillan: you can see a panel inside it
[14:19] Pedro McMillan: it's not necessary right now... it's really just to show you how it works
[14:19] Pedro McMillan: once you have your Sloodle.org account, just click the panel inside the booth
[14:19] Sloodle 0.2 Registration Booth whispers: Keithm Mureaux, please use this URL to login to Moodle.
[14:19] Sloodle 0.2 Registration Booth whispers: Keithm Mureaux, please use this URL to login to Moodle.
[14:19] Pedro McMillan: it will give you a URL to follow.... just follow it and login to Moodle
[14:19] Sloodle 0.2 Registration Booth whispers: Cheyenne Bracken, please use this URL to login to Moodle.
[14:19] Pedro McMillan: the purpose of this is to confirm that you own your avatar *and* your Moodle account
[14:20] Pedro McMillan: (otherwise people are likely to do silly things like pretend to be somebody else!)
[14:20] Sloodle 0.2 Registration Booth whispers: MsMauri Collins, please use this URL to login to Moodle.
[14:20] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: JG Lane (2m)
[14:21] Pedro McMillan: when Sloodle is installed on your Moodle site (as an Activity Module) it creates some space in your database
[14:21] Sloodle 0.2 Registration Booth whispers: Cheyenne Bracken, please use this URL to login to Moodle.
[14:21] Pedro McMillan: in there, it stores a note of which avatar belongs to which Moodle account
[14:21] Pedro McMillan: you can remove your avatar from your Moodle account at any time, without risk to any of the other data
Sloodle WebIntercom
[14:22] Pedro McMillan: right.... let's try something practical!
[14:22] Cheyenne Bracken: once were in what do we do?
[14:22] Pedro McMillan: just getting on to that now! :-)
[14:22] Cheyenne Bracken: ok:))
[14:22] Pedro McMillan: this box with names above it is the Sloodle WebIntercom
[14:22] Pedro McMillan: this connects the in-world text-chat to a Moodle chatroom
[14:22] Pedro McMillan: folks on Moodle can chat to us, and we can chat to them
[14:23] Pedro McMillan: it is real-time, but it will only record your chat if you touch it first
[14:23] Pedro McMillan: (this is to keep in line with the SL terms of service)
[14:23] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording Casey Ezvalt
[14:23] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording Weedless Frog
[14:23] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording Cheyenne Bracken
[14:23] Weedless Frog: `hmmm nice
[14:23] Pedro McMillan: I will find the URL for the chatroom
[14:23] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording Bracken Homewood
[14:23] Pedro McMillan: (slow 'net connection this evening!)
[14:23] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording MsMauri Collins
[14:23] Pedro McMillan: http://www.sloodle.org/mod/chat/view.php?id=146
[14:24] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Peter Bloomfield: enter
[14:24] Pedro McMillan: if you are registered on Sloodle.org, you can open that URL to try out the chatroom on Moodle too
[14:24] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: keith murray: enter
[14:24] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Peter Bloomfield: hello Second Life!
[14:24] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: keith murray: beep 4270
[14:24] Pedro McMillan: you can see it relaying chat messages as green "object chat"
[14:24] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Peter Bloomfield: testing... 1, 2, 3.... testing
[14:25] Pedro McMillan: there are a few key advantages to this tool
[14:25] Pedro McMillan: first of all, it's great if some folks can't get into SL for whatever reason.... e.g. hardware or security restrictions
[14:25] MsMauri Collins: ooook
[14:25] Pedro McMillan: with this, they can still take part in the chat
[14:25] sloodle toolbar 2 in 1 1.0.3: Type the Title of the blog entry.
[14:26] Pedro McMillan: a while ago, we had problems of Mac users always crashing in this sim, so they could only attend the Sloodle Development Meetings via a Moodle chatroom!
[14:26] Pedro McMillan: the other useful feature is that Moodle stores a log of all the chats, so you can look them up later
[14:26] Pedro McMillan: (it's easier than uploading all your chatlogs yourself, as they are stored publicly)
[14:26] Bracken Homewood: if we enable logging all our SL chats are logged in any case
[14:27] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: latiyfat linton: enter
[14:27] Pedro McMillan: that's true... but this way, people who weren't there can still review the logs
[14:27] Pedro McMillan: any questions so far?
[14:28] Casey Ezvalt: none h ere
[14:28] Pedro McMillan: are you wanting to know about our Blog tool, Daneel?
[14:29] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Peter Bloomfield: exit
[14:29] Keithm Mureaux: Pedro, any other Moodle tools accessible yet?
[14:29] Pedro McMillan: yes, quite a few actually
Sloodle MetaGloss
[14:30] Pedro McMillan: the Sloodle MetaGloss, for example, lets you search Moodle glossaries from here in SL
[14:30] Sloodle MetaGloss: Successfully updated list of glossaries.
[14:30] Keithm Mureaux: forums?
[14:30] Pedro McMillan: it's easy to use... just chat "/def " followed by a search term
[14:31] Pedro McMillan: the forums are being worked on just now.... very difficult tool to create!
[14:31] Casey Ezvalt: /def university
[14:31] Sloodle MetaGloss: No definitions found for concept "university".
[14:31] Pedro McMillan: this MetaGloss is connected to a glossary of Second Life terms
[14:31] Bracken Homewood: /def avatar
[14:31] Pedro McMillan: aha, somebody deactivated it!
[14:31] Pedro McMillan: :-P
[14:31] Pedro McMillan: try again Bracken!
[14:31] Bracken Homewood: /def avatar
[14:31] Sloodle MetaGloss: Avatar = 1) The digital representation of your virtual self in Second Life. Or, in plain English, the character in Second Life that's you; 2) Other people's characters. Generally, any other thing with a name above it (though there are very convincing cardboard cutouts in Second Life); 3) A "costume" or outfit; a full set of avatar body parts, clothing, and/or attachments that provides a specific look.
[14:31] Pedro McMillan: there we go
[14:32] Pedro McMillan: the main advantage to this tool is obviously that the definition is chatted publicly
[14:32] Keithm Mureaux: I saw the slide show yesterday in your meeting, where was that created?
[14:32] Pedro McMillan: this saves the need for students to have to each go separately out to Moodle
[14:32] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: Evad Slade (16m)
[14:32] Pedro McMillan: the slide show? That isn't a Sloodle tool.... not sure who made that on
[14:32] Pedro McMillan: that one*
[14:32] Keithm Mureaux: or whiteboard it might have been called
[14:33] Pedro McMillan: we do have an entirely separate interactive whiteboard in development
[14:33] Keithm Mureaux: is that what i saw?
[14:33] Daneel Ariantho: /def hud
[14:33] Sloodle MetaGloss: HUD = Heads-Up Display
[14:33] Pedro McMillan: I don't think so... that was just kind of like a PowerPoint presentation
[14:34] Pedro McMillan: the idea of our whiteboard tool is that you can have people here in SL and people out on the web collaboratively drawing the same diagram
[14:34] Keithm Mureaux: I liked the format..how was that done?
[14:34] Pedro McMillan: no idea I'm afraid... it's a very common tool in SL
[14:34] Pedro McMillan: I think it might have been made by AngryBeth Shortbread actually
[14:34] Keithm Mureaux: got it, so not part of the moodle/SL interface
[14:34] Pedro McMillan: not that one, no
[14:35] Pedro McMillan: the MetaGloss here will also support other languages
[14:35] Sloodle MetaGloss: Deactivating due to inactivity.
[14:35] Pedro McMillan: if you create a Moodle glossary in Japanese, for example, then the MetaGloss will cope with the alphabet
[14:35] Pedro McMillan: it's useful for things like language phrasebooks
[14:35] Pedro McMillan: (language education is quite popular in SL!)
[14:35] Sloodle 0.2 Registration Booth whispers: Readly Oh, please use this URL to login to Moodle.
[14:36] Pedro McMillan: so that's the MetaGloss... an example of a directly educational tool in Sloodle
Sloodle Quizz Chair
[14:36] Pedro McMillan: next, let's look at assessment
[14:36] Pedro McMillan: we currently only have one assessment tool.... called the Sloodle Quiz Chair
[14:36] Pedro McMillan: Moodle offers quizzes which you can make to assess students
[14:36] Pedro McMillan: the Sloodle Quiz Chair lets you take the quizzes in SL
[14:37] Pedro McMillan: the results are fed back to Moodle, and contribute to the gradebook in the usual way
[14:37] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: Spitshine Sideways (12m)
[14:37] Pedro McMillan: it is still a slightly glitchy tool, but it does work
[14:37] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: Antanc Aabye (18m)
[14:37] Pedro McMillan: (you need to have your avatar registered for this one to work)
[14:37] Pedro McMillan: I'll rez a few of them, so a bunch of you can try it out
[14:37] Bracken Homewood: I've heard that hot potatoes work in moodle..do they work in sloodle?
[14:38] Pedro McMillan: no, I'm afraid not
[14:38] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording Antanc Aabye
[14:38] Pedro McMillan: we haven't looked at that yet
[14:38] Pedro McMillan: these grey cylinders are the quiz chairs... just right-click on one, and click "Ride"
[14:39] Pedro McMillan: (or "sit")
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Loading questions for Casey Ezvalt
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Question list loaded. Starting test...
[14:39] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Now recording Daneel Ariantho
[14:39] Pedro McMillan: the questions are asked in a blue dialog box, so you can answer privately
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair: Yes indeed. It supports only multiple choice questions.
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair: That is correct: there is the "notecard" method, and the "automated" (or non-notecard) method.
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Loading questions for Spitshine Sideways
[14:39] Pedro McMillan: (except the feedback is still public!)
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair: Quiz error (-321): User not registered, and auto registration was not permitted.
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Loading questions for Readly Oh
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Question list loaded. Starting test...
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair: Yes indeed. It supports only multiple choice questions.
[14:39] Pedro McMillan: Spitshine, your avatar isn't registered with Sloodle.org, so you won't be able to do it I'm afraid!
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Loading questions for JG Lane
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair: Quiz error (-321): User not registered, and auto registration was not permitted.
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair: More than that!
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair: Sorry, no. The Sloodle WebIntercom connects to Moodle chatrooms, not blogs.
[14:39] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: done
[14:40] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Loading questions for Evad Slade
[14:40] Sloodle Quiz Chair: Quiz error (-321): User not registered, and auto registration was not permitted.
[14:40] Sloodle Quiz Chair: Sorry, no. The Sloodle WebIntercom connects to Moodle chatrooms, not blogs.
[14:40] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: done
[14:40] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Loading questions for MsMauri Collins
[14:40] Sloodle Quiz Chair whispers: Question list loaded. Starting test...
[14:40] Pedro McMillan: I'm afraid the char only works once
[14:40] Pedro McMillan: then it needs to be re-rezzed
[14:40] Pedro McMillan: (a glitch we still need to solve!)
[14:40] Pedro McMillan: you can see the principle of it though
[14:41] Pedro McMillan: the chair goes up when you get the question right, and down if you get it wrong
[14:41] Pedro McMillan: as I mentioned, the feedback gets stored in the Moodle gradebook
[14:41] Pedro McMillan: you can see your results or take the quiz in your browser here: http://www.sloodle.org/mod/quiz/view.php?id=715
Sloodle Primdrop
[14:42] Pedro McMillan: we have some other assessment tools in development
[14:42] Pedro McMillan: one of them is the "PrimDrop", which lets students submit 3d objects in SL as Moodle assignments
[14:42] Pedro McMillan: the educator can come in-world to view the object(s), and leave grades/feedback in Moodle
[14:42] Keithm Mureaux: /def prim
[14:43] Pedro McMillan: (the MetaGloss is gone now!)
[14:43] Pedro McMillan: similarly, we also have plans for a text-based assignment dropbox... so a student would create a notecard, drop it in a virtual box, and the text would get submitted to Moodle as an assignment
Sloodle Choice
[14:43] Pedro McMillan: another similar tool which is in prototype phase just now is the "Sloodle Choice"
[14:44] Pedro McMillan: the "Choice" in moodle is like a single-question survey
[14:44] Pedro McMillan: the Sloodle Choice lets you take that question in SL, and see the results graphically, in 3d
[14:44] Pedro McMillan: I am hoping to create multiple different graph types, so you could see a horizontal/vertical bar chart, or a pie-chat, or whatever
[14:45] Pedro McMillan: some of the other tools we have include ways of distributing objects to your students
[14:45] Pedro McMillan: this is very useful if you want to distribute landmarks or tools or such like easily
[14:45] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: John Illios (19m)
[14:45] Pedro McMillan: (saves you having to go through each person's profile, one by one!)
[14:45] Pedro McMillan: the other major tool we have is the Sloodle Toolbar
[14:46] Bracken Homewood: can't these things already be done by putting all the students in a group in SL?
[14:46] Pedro McMillan: yes, the group tools in SL can be used as well
[14:46] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: vikii17 Hilton (19m)
[14:47] Bracken Homewood: except that it costs 100L$ to create a group in SL....
[14:47] Pedro McMillan: however, the Sloodle distribution tools let you base the distribution on Moodle courses.... e.g. only people enrolled in your class can get the object
[14:47] Pedro McMillan: we also have a web-based interface, so you can distribute objects without having to be in SL
[14:47] Bracken Homewood: but you could do the same thing by putting the students on each course in a group...for 100 L$ a class
[14:47] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: Aquila Blinker (4m)
[14:48] Pedro McMillan: that's true... but wrangling students into SL groups is easier said than done sometimes!
[14:48] Pedro McMillan: (I'm speaking from experience of RL classes which use SL)
Sloodle Toolbar
[14:49] Pedro McMillan: our other major Sloodle tool is the Sloodle Toolbar
[14:49] Pedro McMillan: you can get it over in Sloodleville to the East of here
[14:49] Pedro McMillan: its main purpose is to let you write to your Moodle blog from here in SL
[14:50] Pedro McMillan: recent additions to its functionality include multi-part messages, and private chat channels
[14:50] Pedro McMillan: it also has an "AviLister" tool in it, which lets you see which Moodle account your students or classmates are connected to
[14:50] Pedro McMillan: (for RL education, this is useful in identifying the RL owner of avatars in your class)
[14:51] Pedro McMillan: the Toolbar also has "Classroom Gestures" on it, such as raising your hand, nodding your head, and so on
Future & Developments
[14:51] Pedro McMillan: some of our future developments include interactive lessons, forums, and wikis.... although they are all some distance off yet!
[14:51] Pedro McMillan: Sloodle is very much a work in progress
[14:52] Pedro McMillan: it is certainly stable and useful at this point.... but constantly changing
[14:52] Pedro McMillan: there is a Sloodle Pilot running just now to investigate it better
[14:52] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: lacosteur Jakob (17m)
[14:52] Pedro McMillan: hopefully the results from that will give us new ideas and inspiration! :-)
[14:52] Pedro McMillan: as I mentioned before, we have forums on Sloodle.org which you are all welcome to participate in
[14:53] Pedro McMillan: you are also welcome to IM me anytime if you need help or have questions
[14:53] Pedro McMillan: and our documentation is available online: http://slisweb.sjsu.edu/sl/index.php/SloodleDocs
Questions
[14:53] Pedro McMillan: any questions at all at this point?
[14:53] Bracken Homewood: ahh I have the class room gestures...... I wish one could change where they are on the screen
[14:53] Pedro McMillan: you mean change the position of the Toolbar on your screen?
[14:53] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: AllThat Iwish (17m)
[14:54] Spitshine Sideways: I have a question about using SL or SLoodle in K-12
[14:54] Bracken Homewood: they stay centre top...whic is sometimes in the way
[14:54] Pedro McMillan: you can attach it to a different part of your HUD, and it now has a minimize feature
[14:54] Bracken Homewood: yes...i haven't found out how to move them
[14:54] Bracken Homewood: ahh...I need to update
[14:54] Pedro McMillan: when it's in your inventory, just right-click it, and select "Attach to HUD" -> and select whatever position you like
[14:55] Bracken Homewood: Thank you :)
[14:55] Pedro McMillan: Spitshine, if I remember correctly, K-12 is teenagers?
[14:55] Spitshine Sideways: no..6yo - 18yo
[14:55] Pedro McMillan: oh, big range
[14:55] Spitshine Sideways: kindergarten through 12th grade in the US
[14:55] Pedro McMillan: well kids aged 13 to 18 can only access the SL "Teen Grid", which adults can't usually get onto unless they are educators
[14:55] Pedro McMillan: kids under 13 cannot use SL at all
[14:55] Spitshine Sideways: yes...does SL have private islands that can be purchased ?
[14:56] Pedro McMillan: yes, although I don't know much about the process
[14:56] Evad Slade: It's dexpensive!
[14:56] Pedro McMillan: my university effectively owns (or rents) this island
[14:56] Spitshine Sideways: thats our ultimate goal..to have a totally private secure site for individual schools or a district
[14:56] Cheyenne Bracken: 1500 USD.
[14:56] Spitshine Sideways: yes, but it is still open to the public...
[14:56] MsMauri Collins: Lots of information on island purchase on www.secondlife.com
[14:56] Spitshine Sideways: ok thanks...can they be totally private?
[14:57] MsMauri Collins: yes they can
[14:57] MsMauri Collins: not even show on the grid if you want
[14:57] Pedro McMillan: it is possible
[14:57] Pedro McMillan: completely owning your own server is not possible just yet, unless you use the unofficial "OpenSim" software
[14:57] Pedro McMillan: (it is still very experimental)
[14:57] Spitshine Sideways: ok.. I suppose its way to early to think about SL in an open env.
[14:57] Pedro McMillan: we just need to hound Linden Lab until they open source their server software! :-)
[14:57] AllThat Iwish: to own your own grid you would have to got the central grid
[14:58] MsMauri Collins: Pedro: do you offer this introduction every week? I would like to ask my students to come over and attend
[14:58] Pedro McMillan: yes, at the moment, twice every Wednesday
[14:58] MsMauri Collins: thank you
[14:58] Evad Slade: Can the moodle software be installed and worked from in Dreamweaver?
[14:58] Pedro McMillan: attendance is very poor at the 2am session, but that might change when Europe's Daylight time kicks-in this weekend
[14:58] Spitshine Sideways: whats the diif between this session and the Tuesday sessions
[14:59] John Illios: Happens this Sunday
[14:59] Pedro McMillan: Dreamweaver is web-design software, isn't it?
[14:59] Evad Slade: Yes
[14:59] Pedro McMillan: the Tuesday session is about the Development of Sloodle, so it's quite technical sometimes
[14:59] Pedro McMillan: Moodle is a collection of PHP scripts which need to run on a server, so I assume Dreamweaver can't touch it
[14:59] Spitshine Sideways: I'm sure1
[15:00] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: keith murray: exit
[15:00] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Josh Duncan: exit
[15:00] Spitshine Sideways: yes DW cant do much if anything with sloodle or moodle
[15:00] Pedro McMillan: any server running a decent PHP/MySQL setup should run Moodle though
[15:00] Evad Slade: I need some instructions on how to install it...Dreamweaver can access PHY MySql
[15:00] Pedro McMillan: do you have a server?
[15:01] Evad Slade: I', trying to set up a local server on my computer...a testing server..having a heel of a time
[15:01] Pedro McMillan: it's not easy at first, is it?
[15:01] Pedro McMillan: Moodle.org has plenty of advice though
[15:01] Spitshine Sideways: you can also download WAMP5 or XAMPP to your local pc to get a local version going
[15:01] Pedro McMillan: they seem to recommend XAMPP for Windows systems I think
[15:01] Evad Slade: I tried to use the complete intall package, but I get an error message for apache
[15:01] Pedro McMillan: I like WAMP myself
[15:01] Spitshine Sideways: I thinks WAMP5 is much easier for newbies than XAMPP
[15:01] Pedro McMillan: you can get WAMP from Sourceforge.net, and it's usually a very clean install
[15:02] Spitshine Sideways: if anyone wants help setting it up on a public server IM me
[15:02] Pedro McMillan: just unzip Moodle in there, and access it to do the installation procedure, and that's it
[15:02] Evad Slade: Is there a moodle install with Wamp? I only saw XAKP
[15:02] Pedro McMillan: Sloodle is just as easy.... unzip the folder into the right place in Moodle, and that's it
[15:02] Evad Slade: XAMP
[15:02] Pedro McMillan: you need to download WAMP separately
[15:02] Pedro McMillan: then download Moodle
[15:03] Spitshine Sideways: lol.. its all a bit much if you arent techy
[15:03] Evad Slade: I'll IM yosd separately
[15:03] Pedro McMillan: you might have trouble using Sloodle on a local machine if you have a firewall.... most personal computers don't expect incoming web-requests!
[15:03] Pedro McMillan: it's possible though
[15:04] Evad Slade: Mine's just for testing, so I can give it to my Techie offsite who runs a server
Conclusion
[15:04] Pedro McMillan: I'm happy to hang around and chat for a while, but everybody else, thanks so much for coming! And I hope it was useful!
[15:04] Bracken Homewood: Thank you very much
[15:04] Readly Oh: How do I get the log?
[15:04] JG Lane: Thanks, very informative
[15:04] Evad Slade: Thanks, Pedro!
[15:04] Pedro McMillan: the log is on Sloodle.org... I'll find the link
[15:05] Pedro McMillan: chat log is here: http://www.sloodle.org/mod/chat/report.php?id=146
[15:05] Readly Oh: TY
[15:05] You: Thanks Pedro ! very clear.
[15:05] Pedro McMillan: you're welcome!
[15:06] Sloodle WebIntercom {sloodle.org - PPSB}: Chat logging is now off!
[15:06] MsMauri Collins: Thank you, Pedro...I will ask my students to come by over the next 3-4 weeks :-)
[15:06] Pedro McMillan: ok, great... I am happy to schedule a special session if you need one too
[15:06] MsMauri Collins: I am teaching at Boise State...the EDTECH 597 class
[15:08] Evad Slade: If I can set up a class with my Grad Ed students, whould you be will to do a VO demo from SL...this might be sometime this summer
[15:08] Pedro McMillan: VO demo?
[15:08] MystiTool HUD 1.0.22: Entering chat range: Keithm Mureaux (0m)
[15:09] Evad Slade: I want to show them the on-line ed option is SL, and it would be on an overhead screes so that can all see and hear from their desks
[15:09] Keithm Mureaux: thanks for the information peter
[15:09] Pedro McMillan: no worries Keith!
[15:09] Evad Slade: It would require live voice
[15:10] Pedro McMillan: sure, no problem
[15:10] Keithm Mureaux: is there anyone running a test class in the near future?
[15:10] Evad Slade: Thanks, again Pedro
[15:10] Pedro McMillan: yes, the Sloodle Pilot involves a few test classes
[15:10] Keithm Mureaux: how do i access those?
[15:10] Pedro McMillan: not sure... you'd need to ask Daniel Livingstone (aka Buddy Sprocket) for info
[15:11] Keithm Mureaux: will do
[15:11] Keithm Mureaux: afk
[15:12] Pedro McMillan: well folks, if that's everything, I'm going to head off!
